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YRM Prop Starter Challenge vs Instant Prime 2026: Which Path Pays Faster?

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Quick Answer โ€” YRM Prop โ€” Starter vs Instant Prime Quick Facts

  • โ€ข Starter Challenge: $149/$249/$349 one-time, eval-only (no payouts), pass to graduate to Prime
  • โ€ข Instant Prime: $399/$599/$749/$899 one-time, funded immediately, payout-eligible after 8 qualifying days
  • โ€ข Starter sizes $50K/$100K/$150K; Instant Prime adds a $25K tier
  • โ€ข Consistency: 50% Starter, 35% Prime (post-pass), 20% Instant Prime
  • โ€ข Time to first payout: Starter path ~3-4 weeks; Instant Prime ~2 weeks
  • โ€ข Both products run Trailing EOD drawdown and 90/10 profit split
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Tested firsthand: I've passed two Starter Challenge $50K evaluations and taken those accounts to Prime, pulling four $1,500 payouts via Rise so far (~$6K total). What you're reading on the Starter Challenge and Prime account specs comes from real evaluation runs and live payout cycles. Instant Prime and Live Account specs are verified against YRM's published Help Center documentation.

For the full breakdown of every YRM Prop account โ€” Starter Challenge ($149/$249/$349 one-time across $50K/$100K/$150K), Prime (earned post-Starter, 35% consistency, 6 qualifying days), and Instant Prime ($399 to $899 one-time across $25K/$50K/$100K/$150K, 20% consistency, 8 days) โ€” read my YRM Prop accounts overview, plus the full YRM Prop review. Sign up via YRM Prop, or check the help center for current pricing.

As of April 2026, YRM Prop runs two entry doors to a funded account, and they are not interchangeable. Starter Challenge is a cheap one-time evaluation ($149 / $249 / $349) that you must pass before you trade funded; passing graduates you to a Prime account where payouts begin. Instant Prime is a more expensive one-time purchase ($399 / $599 / $749 / $899) that hands you a funded account on day one with no evaluation gate. Pay-less-but-prove-it versus pay-more-skip-the-line. Choosing between them is the most consequential decision a new YRM trader makes. It sets the cost basis, the rule cushion, the time to first payout, and the contract limits you trade under for weeks or months.

This article maps the structural difference, walks through the cost math to first payout on each path, names the trader profile each product was built for, and lays out the consistency-rule and drawdown mechanics that decide who actually keeps their funded account. For broader context on how the two slots into YRM's product tree, see the YRM Prop account types overview. Pricing detail across both products lives in the pricing and discount guide.

Side-by-side spec comparison

The single most useful frame for the choice is a head-to-head spec table. Everything below annotates the spec table:

FeatureStarter ChallengeInstant Prime
Entry mechanism Evaluation (pass to graduate to Prime) Purchased funded directly
One-time fee $149 / $249 / $349 $399 / $599 / $749 / $899
Sizes available $50K / $100K / $150K $25K / $50K / $100K / $150K
Path post-purchase Pass eval, then trade Prime Trade immediately, payout-eligible from day one
Time to first payout Eval pass + 6 qualifying Prime days (~3-4 weeks typical) 8 qualifying days (~2 weeks typical)
Consistency rule 50% Starter, then 35% on Prime 20% throughout
Daily loss limit None on Starter; soft DLL on Prime $50K+ None on $25K, soft DLL on $50K+
Trailing max drawdown $2K / $3K / $4.5K $1,250 / $2K / $4K / $6K
Max contracts 5 / 10 / 15 minis 1 / 2 / 4 / 7 minis
Profit target $3K / $6K / $9K eval New Instant Prime: $1,500 / $3K / $5K / $8K (first payout)
Activation fee $99 (currently waived) None
Profit split 90/10 90/10
Drawdown type Trailing EOD Trailing EOD
Min trading days 2 (eval) then 6 (Prime per cycle) 8 per payout cycle
Max funded accounts Counted in 3-funded cap Counted in 3-funded cap
Payouts None during eval From day one

The structural difference is not just cost. Starter trades a longer path for a cheaper entry, more contract room, and a forgiving 50% consistency cushion during proving. Instant Prime trades a higher entry for instant payout eligibility under tight 20% consistency and tight contract limits. Both products end at the same Live Account stage, so long-run economics converge. The choice is about how you pay the toll, not where the road ends.

Cost analysis: total to first $1,500 payout

The headline number to compare is total dollars out before your first dollar in. Here is the math on $50K, the most common size for both products.

Starter Challenge to first Prime payout, $50K:

  • Entry: $149 one-time
  • Activation fee on Prime: $99 (currently waived per launch offer)
  • Pass evaluation: 2-4 weeks typical (~$3,000 profit target, 50% consistency, 2+ trading days)
  • Prime cycle: 6 qualifying days, 35% consistency, no profit target
  • First payout cap: $1,500 (old Prime grandfathered, before Feb 1, 2026)
  • Total cost to first payout: $149
  • Net cash on first payout: +$1,351 ($1,500 minus $149)

Instant Prime to first payout, $50K:

  • Entry: $599 one-time
  • Cycle: 8 qualifying days, 20% consistency
  • New Instant Prime first-payout profit target: $3,000 (must be earned before first withdrawal)
  • First payout cap on new $50K Instant Prime: $2,000
  • Total cost to first payout: $599
  • Net cash on first payout: +$1,401 ($2,000 minus $599)

The two paths are roughly equivalent on cycle one. Instant Prime nets about $50 more, but Starter is $450 cheaper to start. The asymmetry shows up at the failure modes.

If you fail the Starter Challenge once and rebuy: $149 + $149 = $298, still cheaper than Instant Prime entry. If you fail twice: $447, still cheaper than Instant Prime. The cheap-entry path is forgiving of evaluation failure in a way the Instant Prime path is not.

If you breach an Instant Prime account before first payout: $599 sunk, no eval phase to fall back to, no payout earned. The all-or-nothing structure of Instant Prime is its real cost, not the sticker price.

A trader with calibrated 90%+ pass-rate confidence on the eval should bias toward Starter. A trader who has tested elsewhere, runs known-tight risk discipline, and values the speed of skipping the eval should bias toward Instant Prime. There is no universal winner.

When Starter Challenge wins

The Starter route is the structurally correct choice for several distinct profiles.

Cost-conscious traders or first-time YRM users. $149 buys the cheapest possible test of the firm. If something about the platform, the support flow, or the rule enforcement does not work for you, you have lost less than half what an Instant Prime entry would have cost. For a trader who has not used YRM before, this is the lowest-friction way to find out whether the firm works for them.

Traders who want consistency cushion during the proving phase. The Starter Challenge runs at 50% consistency. That means a single day worth $1,500 on a $2,800 cycle is 53%, which breaches. A $1,500 day on a $3,100 cycle is fine ($1,500 / $3,100 = 48%). The cushion is real but not unlimited. Compare to Instant Prime at 20%, where the same $1,500 day requires $7,500 of total cycle profit before it stops counting as concentrated. The Starter rule lets winners breathe; the Instant Prime rule punishes them.

Traders who want bigger contract room during the eval phase. Starter $50K allows 5 minis. Instant Prime $50K allows 2 minis. If a trader's edge depends on size flexibility (running 4 ES minis on a clean trend day, for example), Instant Prime is contractually too tight and Starter is the only YRM path that supports the strategy. This applies more strongly at $100K (10 vs 4) and $150K (15 vs 7).

Traders who want intraday flexibility with no daily loss limit. During the Starter Challenge there is no daily loss limit at all. Drawdown is bounded only by the trailing max drawdown. A trader who wants the freedom to take a deep intraday loss and recover before EOD has more rope on Starter than on Instant Prime $50K and larger (which has a soft DLL). The trade-off is hard breach risk if the recovery does not happen. The trailing drawdown will close the account if intraday equity drops below the floor.

Traders who want access to grandfathered old-Prime payout structure. Starter passes that funded a Prime account before February 1, 2026 sit on the original payout cap table: first payout $1,500, fourth payout $4,000 on $50K, no 50%-of-cycle cap, no profit target. New Prime accounts (funded Feb 1+) have lower 4th+ caps ($2,750 on $50K) and a 50% cycle cap. The grandfathering window has closed for new buyers, but understanding it explains why some YRM-published payout tables differ from what newer Prime accounts see.

When Instant Prime wins

The Instant Prime route is the structurally correct choice for a different set of profiles.

Experienced traders who know they hold 20% consistency. A trader who routinely produces eight or ten distributed winning days per month, with no single day dominating profit, holds the 20% rule comfortably. For that trader, the rule is not a constraint; it just describes their existing pattern. They get day-one payout eligibility without paying the consistency tax that the rule represents to a more concentrated trader.

Capital-rich traders who prefer one larger fee over multiple smaller fees. If the alternative is buying a Starter Challenge, failing eval once, and rebuying (paying $149 twice), the Instant Prime $599 fee starts to look like cost certainty. One transaction, one funded account, no failure-rebuy loop. The risk shifts to whether the funded account survives, but the upfront cost is fixed.

Traders who want $25K size. This is the only YRM-funded $25K option. There is no Starter Challenge at $25K, and no Prime account is provisioned at $25K either. If a trader specifically wants $25K size (for risk control, for testing strategy at small size, for keeping a cap-room slot open), Instant Prime is the only path. Entry is $399 with 1 mini (10 micros) contract limit and $1,250 trailing max drawdown.

Traders who want instant payout eligibility. 8 qualifying days versus eval-pass-plus-6-days is the speed differential. For a trader who has steady $200-$400 winning days, that translates to roughly 2 weeks versus 3-4 weeks to first payout. For a trader who values cash flow over total cost, Instant Prime is the faster path.

Traders who want tight contract limits as a discipline forcer. This is a counterintuitive use case but a real one. A trader who tends to overtrade, take outsized positions late in the session, or hunt revenge trades benefits from being structurally capped at 1 or 2 minis. The Instant Prime contract limit becomes a built-in risk manager. Some traders deliberately accept the smaller contract room because they trust themselves more under it.

How the consistency rule difference plays in practice

The consistency rule is the single biggest behavioral difference between the products. The math is the same on all three: highest single-day profit divided by total cycle profit, must stay at or below the limit. But the limits drive completely different trading rhythms.

Starter Challenge at 50%. A $1,500 day on a $2,800 cycle is 53%, breach. A $1,500 day on $3,100 cycle is 48%, pass. The cushion is wide enough that a trader can have one or two genuinely big days inside an evaluation as long as cycle profit catches up. Most traders can pass a Starter Challenge without ever consciously thinking about the rule.

Prime at 35% post-graduation. A $700 day on $2,400 cycle is 29%, pass. A $1,000 day on $2,400 cycle is 42%, breach. The rule tightens by 30% relative to Starter, and the cushion shrinks materially. Traders who hit Prime and keep trading the way they passed Starter often catch a consistency breach on payout request. The rule effectively says: now that you are funded, distribute your profits more evenly.

Instant Prime at 20%. A $600 day on $3,000 cycle is 20%, pass on the line. A $700 day on $3,000 cycle is 23%, breach. Instant Prime requires that no single day represent more than one-fifth of the cycle. To pull a $1,500 first payout on $50K Instant Prime, the trader needs $7,500 in total cycle profit ($1,500 / $7,500 = 20%). On Starter going to first Prime payout, the same $1,500 needs only $3,000 cycle profit. The Instant Prime rule structurally requires more total trading volume to qualify a payout.

This is why the 20% rule, not the $599 sticker, is the real cost of Instant Prime. A trader whose pattern is "two big days per week and three flat days" will systematically fail Instant Prime payout requests on consistency even while making money. The Starter route forgives this pattern; the Instant Prime route penalizes it.

For deeper detail and worked examples on each tier, see the YRM Prop consistency rules guide.

How drawdown mechanics differ

Both products run Trailing Max Drawdown in EOD mode. The mechanic is identical: the drawdown trails the highest end-of-day balance upward, and once cumulative profit equals the starting drawdown distance, the floor locks at the starting balance permanently. A hard breach (intraday equity dropping below the floor) closes the account immediately on either product.

The difference is in the daily loss limit overlay.

Starter Challenge. No daily loss limit at all. The trader is bounded only by the trailing floor. Within a session, the trader can take a $1,500 drawdown and recover, and as long as session-close equity stays above the floor, nothing happens. This is maximum intraday flexibility, and maximum hard-breach risk if recovery does not arrive.

Instant Prime $25K. No daily loss limit. Same flexibility-versus-hard-breach trade-off as Starter, but at smaller size with tighter $1,250 trailing drawdown and 1-mini contract cap.

Instant Prime $50K. Soft daily loss limit of $1,500. If intraday loss reaches $1,500, trading pauses for the day; the account stays open and is not auto-denied for payouts. The next session resumes normally. This is a per-day circuit breaker that limits drawdown velocity.

Instant Prime $100K. Soft daily loss limit of $3,000. Same mechanism, larger threshold.

Instant Prime $150K. Soft daily loss limit of $4,500. Same mechanism, scaled to size.

Worked example, $50K Instant Prime, soft-then-hard pattern:

  • Trader starts day at $50,000 balance, trailing drawdown floor at $48,000
  • Loses $1,200 by midday. Soft DLL at $1,500, still trading
  • Recovers $400. Net day -$800. No DLL trigger
  • Loses $700 in afternoon. Day net -$1,500. Soft DLL trips. Trading paused. Account still open.
  • Account resumes next session at $48,500 balance, floor still at $48,000

The soft DLL prevents a single bad day from cascading into a hard breach. On Starter, where there is no soft DLL, the same trader could lose $1,500 in the morning, lose another $600 chasing the recovery, and trip the trailing floor before EOD. The Starter eval is more forgiving on consistency but less forgiving on intraday drawdown discipline.

For a complete walk-through of the drawdown mechanic, see static vs trailing drawdown.

Personal experience: my Starter to Prime path

I have traded the Starter route on YRM, not Instant Prime. Two $50K Starter Challenges passed (~3 weeks each from purchase to graduation), then run on the resulting Prime accounts for four payout cycles each. Total payouts so far: 4 cycles at the $1,500 first-payout cap on grandfathered old Prime, totaling $6,000 across both accounts via Rise.

I chose Starter not Instant Prime for two reasons. First, the cost-anchored decision: $149 was the cheapest possible test of YRM's platform, payout flow, and Rise withdrawal cycle. Locking in $599 on Instant Prime before knowing whether the firm's payout queue actually moved would have been a bigger leap. The Starter path let me prove the firm to myself before paying for size.

Second, the 50% consistency cushion. My eval pattern is uneven. Some days I sit flat to wait for setups, some days I take a single trade that runs $400-$600. That pattern tests the 35% rule on Prime but glides through the 50% rule on Starter. If I had bought Instant Prime at 20% consistency, my $400-$600 days against my flat days would have failed the rule on payout request. The 50% Starter rule was the cushion that let my actual style pass.

Pacing strategy that worked: 2 trading days minimum for eval, then sized trades, not max contracts. I traded around 2-3 minis on $50K, not the 5-mini limit. That left room for the trailing drawdown to climb without me catching a hard breach. Once Prime kicked in, I shifted to a 6-day rhythm: one trade per day, $200-$400 net, 6 days assembled, payout request, repeat. Predictable and within 35%.

I have not tested Instant Prime. YRM publishes Instant Prime as a $399-$899 funded entry with payout eligibility from day one under 20% consistency, and the Help Center documents the structural mechanics. I cannot describe the live trading experience on Instant Prime from personal use. For the Starter side, the experience is straightforward: pass the eval, pay nothing extra (activation waived), trade the Prime cycle, request payouts via Rise on a 2-3 day Net30 cadence.

Long-term economics: Live transition timing

Both products eventually merge into the same Live Account stage. Understanding when each product gets there changes the long-term math.

Starter to Prime path (grandfathered old Prime). Pre-Feb-1, 2026 funded Prime accounts hit the 4th-payout $4,000 cap on $50K. Lifetime payout cap before forced Live transition is $50K on $50K size. That means the grandfathered Prime $50K hits the Live trigger faster than the new Prime structure: fewer cycles, larger 4th+ payouts.

Starter to Prime path (new Prime, post-Feb-1). New Prime $50K caps at $2,750 on the 4th+ payout (versus $4,000 grandfathered) and adds a 50% cycle cap that applies the lower of cap-table-vs-50%. This means new Prime needs more cycles to hit the same cumulative withdrawals: slower buildup toward Live.

Instant Prime path (any vintage). $50K Instant Prime caps lifetime at $50,000 before forced Live, same as Prime $50K. The 4th+ caps are $4,000 on old IP, $2,500 on new IP. Old IP economics are similar to old Prime; new IP economics are tighter than new Prime by a small margin.

Convergence at Live. Both paths end at a single Live Account, where 16% of allocated capital moves to real-money trading. $50K Live = $8,000 real capital. Live profit split: 90/10 first $10,000 cumulative, then 80/20. Risk Management may increase capital allocation after 30 days based on demonstrated discipline.

The takeaway: if your trading volume is consistent enough to grind through 4-6 payouts in either product, you arrive at Live in roughly the same elapsed time. The differences in payout caps create timing variance of weeks, not months. The product choice is mostly about the path (speed, cost, rule-fit), not the destination.

For the full Prime-side payout cap walk-through, see the YRM Prop payout rules article.

The bottom line

Starter Challenge wins for cost-conscious traders, traders who want consistency cushion, traders who want bigger contract room during proving, and traders who are testing YRM for the first time. The $149 entry is the cheapest possible learning fee, and the 50% consistency rule lets uneven trading patterns pass.

Instant Prime wins for experienced traders who hold 20% consistency, traders who want $25K size (only available here), traders who want instant payout eligibility, and traders who use tight contract limits as a discipline forcer. The $599 entry buys speed and cap-room slot certainty, but the 20% consistency rule is the structural cost, not the price.

The 20% rule is the real Instant Prime test. A trader who patterns big days against flat days will fail Instant Prime payouts on consistency regardless of how comfortable the entry fee feels. A trader whose distributed pattern already holds 20% will glide through the same rule and benefit from the day-one payout eligibility.

Both products end at the same Live Account. Long-term economics converge. The choice is about how you want to enter, not where you exit.

For the next decision in the YRM product tree (Starter detail, Prime detail, Instant Prime detail at the spec level), see the dedicated guides on the Starter Challenge, the Prime account, and Instant Prime. For the strategy side, the best YRM Prop strategy guide walks through how to trade either product. For the rule framework that applies to both, see the YRM Prop rules overview. For the firm-level overview, see the YRM Prop main review.

Frequently Asked Questions

Which is cheaper to first payout, Starter Challenge or Instant Prime?

Starter Challenge is cheaper on the entry side: $149 for the $50K eval versus $599 for $50K Instant Prime. After passing Starter, the trader graduates to Prime funded with no extra fee (the $99 activation is currently waived). First Prime payout caps at $1,500 on $50K. Instant Prime first payout caps at $2,000 on $50K (new accounts post-Feb-1, with profit-target requirement). Net cash through first payout: Starter route nets roughly $1,351, Instant Prime route nets roughly $1,401. Roughly equivalent on cycle one, with Instant Prime faster but Starter cheaper if anything goes wrong.

Which path pays faster?

Instant Prime pays faster. The $50K Instant Prime requires 8 qualifying days (a qualifying day = at least one trade with $150+ net profit), so a disciplined trader can request a first payout in roughly two calendar weeks. The Starter route requires passing the evaluation first (typically 2-4 weeks) and then completing 6 qualifying days on the Prime account that follows, putting the first payout at roughly 3-4 weeks total. If speed-to-first-payout is the priority, Instant Prime wins.

Can I run a Starter Challenge and an Instant Prime at the same time?

Yes. YRM permits unlimited Starter Challenge accounts and up to 3 funded accounts (Prime + Instant Prime combined). A trader can hold a $25K Instant Prime running for fast payouts while testing a $50K Starter Challenge in parallel. The funded-account cap of 3 is enforced across the Prime + Instant Prime pool. If you graduate two Starter Challenges to Prime and already hold one Instant Prime, you are at cap.

What happens if I fail a Starter Challenge?

A breached Starter Challenge ends the evaluation. There are no resets currently available, so to continue you purchase a new Starter Challenge at full one-time price. This is the implicit risk of the cheap-entry path: if you fail and need a second attempt, your effective cost rises to $298 ($149 x 2) on $50K. A trader who fails twice has spent the equivalent of an Instant Prime entry without producing a funded account. Risk-adjust accordingly.

What happens if I breach an Instant Prime account?

An Instant Prime breach (live equity drops below the trailing drawdown floor) closes the account immediately and forfeits any unpaid profits. There is no eval phase to fall back to. The entry fee was for the funded account itself. To continue trading at YRM, you purchase a new Instant Prime or buy a Starter Challenge. Soft daily loss limit breaches on Instant Prime $50K+ pause trading for the day but do not close the account.

Why is the consistency rule different between the two products?

Each consistency rule reflects the risk YRM takes on each product. Starter Challenge runs at 50% because the firm collects no payouts during evaluation. Prime tightens to 35% to filter concentrated payout patterns once funded simulation begins. Instant Prime tightens further to 20% because the trader skipped the proving phase and is payout-eligible immediately. The 20% rule is the price of skipping the evaluation. A trader whose strategy produces single big days will struggle on Instant Prime regardless of how comfortable the price feels.

Is the $25K Instant Prime size worth considering?

The $25K Instant Prime is the lowest-priced funded entry at YRM ($399 one-time) and the only sub-$50K funded option since no $25K Starter or Prime tier exists. It is contract-limited to 1 mini (10 micros) and runs the standard 20% consistency. There is no daily loss limit on $25K Instant Prime, only the trailing $1,250 max drawdown. For traders who want disciplined small-size funded exposure, $25K Instant Prime is the cheapest YRM-funded path. Lifetime payout cap before forced Live transition is $35,000.

Do I have to meet a profit target on Instant Prime?

Only on Instant Prime accounts purchased on or after February 1, 2026. New Instant Prime requires a first-payout profit target before the first withdrawal: $1,500 on $25K, $3,000 on $50K, $5,000 on $100K, $8,000 on $150K. Subsequent payouts have lower profit targets. Old Instant Prime accounts (purchased before Feb 1) have no profit-target requirement and benefit from the original payout cap table. The 8-day qualifying-day rule applies to both old and new accounts.

Do I have to meet a profit target on Starter Challenge?

Yes. The Starter Challenge requires hitting the profit target to pass: $3,000 on $50K, $6,000 on $100K, $9,000 on $150K. The trader must also complete at least 2 trading days and stay within the 50% consistency rule and the trailing max drawdown. Once the target is hit and the rules are satisfied, the trader graduates to a Prime funded account. The Prime account itself has no profit target, only consistency, qualifying days, and the payout cap table.

Are the contract limits really different between the products?

Yes, and the difference is large. Starter Challenge $50K allows 5 minis (50 micros). Instant Prime $50K allows 2 minis (20 micros). On $150K, Starter is 15 minis, Instant Prime is 7 minis. YRM tightens contract limits on Instant Prime because the trader has not been screened by an evaluation. Big-size traders favor Starter for the eval phase even when they ultimately migrate the same strategy onto a different size at Prime stage. Detail in the maximum contracts guide.

Do both products use the same drawdown mechanic?

Yes, both products run Trailing Max Drawdown in EOD mode. The drawdown trails the highest end-of-day balance upward. Once profits reach the starting balance, the drawdown locks at the starting balance permanently. Hard breach (live equity drops below the trailing floor at any point intraday) closes the account immediately. The difference is that Instant Prime $50K and larger include a soft daily loss limit on top of the trailing drawdown: a within-day loss cap that pauses trading but does not close the account.

Which product is better for a trader new to YRM?

For a trader new to YRM specifically (not new to prop trading), the Starter Challenge $50K at $149 is the cheaper way to learn the platform, the consistency mechanics, and the Rise withdrawal flow. If you breach during eval, the loss is bounded at $149. If you are confident in your edge, like 20% consistency, and prefer the speed of skipping the eval, $50K Instant Prime at $599 is reasonable. The $25K Instant Prime at $399 is the cheapest funded test of the firm's payout flow.

Can I refund my Starter or Instant Prime account?

YRM does not publish a standing refund window in the Help Center articles indexed for this guide. Practical guidance: assume both fees are non-refundable once the account is provisioned and the platform credentials are issued. Pricing should be evaluated at full risk, treating each entry as a sunk-cost test of the firm. For specific refund-policy questions, contact support@yrmprop.com before purchase.

Both products lead to the same Live Account, right?

Correct. Whether a trader earns Live status via Starter to Prime payouts or via Instant Prime payouts, the destination is a single Live Account with real capital allocated by Risk Management. Live transition typically happens after the 4th payout or earlier. Lifetime payout caps before forced transition: $35K ($25K size), $50K ($50K size), $75K ($100K size), $85K ($150K size). At Live, the profit split is 90/10 on the first $10,000 cumulative withdrawn, then 80/20.

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